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First Talking Doll By Thomas Edison
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The little talking machine that is next to the doll above went inside her with the handle coming out on the side of the doll.  Edison produced 2500 of these dolls but only 500 sold.   They were $10 each two weeks pay back in 1890. 
Chatty Cathy
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Her Body Types
(Below)
Below are pictures of all the different type grills "5 of them" you will see on Chatty Cathy's body.  The reason I put these pictures on this page is to help you understand these chatty bodies, they are different and the value of the doll depends somewhat on what kind of body she has.  If you know what the grill looks like you will know what is inside that body and will know what you are buying.  Some people list these dolls by numbers on ebay 1-5.  So to help you understand I have listed them by the ebay number in green and by the way I list them (by numbered grill).  Look closely at the difference between grill #3 and grill #4 .  They are different grills and are different inside the body.  On ebay you will see these two bodies listed as number 4 dolls.  But if you look and read below you will see that my grill #4 is the very same inside her body as a number 5 doll and is the first doll to say 18 different phrases.   In fact I would rather fix the #4 body/grill than a number 5 because she has a spring pressed needle inside her which makes her more stable than the number 5.  On the other hand grill #3 that is listed as a number 4 on ebay is not a good doll for repair.

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CHATTY CATHY BODY
The Way These Dolls Are Listed (numbered) On Ebay Below "In Green".
The other numbers on the pictures are the way I list them and how they are described on this page and on this site.
(I list them by what the grill looks like)
NOTE:.. There are 5 different grills
#0,#1 & #2 #3 #3 #4 #4 #5
#0 Prototype
No Writing On
Her Back.  Has
a light brown record inside
and/or
#1 Has writing on her back has a black record inside. 
Both #0 & #1 have a black paper speakers & Say 11 different  phrases
Closed V-box
#2 Cloth has been removed has a black record inside with a black paper speaker says 11 phrases
Closed V-box
#? Now I call this one a #2 but she is different than all the rest.  She has a white plastic speaker inside like numbers 4 & 5 but has a closed voice box like numbers 0,1,2.  The writing on her back is also like 4 & 5
She is also the one I see coming out of Canada a lot.  She is like a mix of all the dolls, so what number is she?
She says 11 phrases
Closed V-box
(Please Notice)
Her Center Has Holes in Picture (Above)
#3 has 6 sided speaker says 11 phrases has a Red Paper speaker and the speaker rides on top the needle has a black record
Open V-box
#4 Has the 6 sided speaker but
the Center has "No" Holes

She is the same inside as the #5 except she is lacking the 4 bottom holes.  That were added later for Ventilation.  She is the first to say 18 different phrases and or 11 phrases. has a black record
(please note her Solid Center)
In Picture Above
Open V-box
#5 Has the same grill as the #4 but also has the 4 holes under the grill.  Says 18 different phrases and can have a black or orange record inside her
Open V-box.
So you do not get confused when you are buying the number 2 or the one marked with a ? mark (above) look inside the grill holes and you will be able to see a white plastic speaker. Closed V-box
TidBiT:. The solid center is where a spring sits to push down on the needle and then will retract when the doll is done talking. 
How to tell what you are buying
The description below goes by my picture chart of the grill (above) NOT the way they are listed on ebay also (above) in green
I have fixed a few hundred of these dolls and as long as I know what the grill/speaker looks like I will know what is inside her body.  I always go by the grill.  The grill is the best why to tell what you are buying.  The number or how they list them on ebay or how I list them really doesn't matter, what matters is what is inside that doll.

#0, #1, #2 and #? Bodies/grill above are all the same inside, having a closed voice box.  But number ? has a white plastic speaker where #0, #1 and #2 have a black paper speaker.  But all four are made almost the same and are the hardest to fix.  The black paper speaker is not very loud and it can get bent and ripped easily.  The plastic white speaker inside number ? is a much better speaker and it is also glued to the doll unlike the black paper one that is attached to the moving needlel.  Also I list #? as a #2 on ebay. (#? body will a lot of the time come with a hard head with a long bob/long pageboy hair cut which is also the hard head you will see chatty small pea size white spots or "measles")

#3 Body/grill Body this body is not hard to fix but to me is the worse one.  I shy away from fixing these because of the Red Paper speaker inside.  (95% of these dolls have the red paper speaker 5% have a black paper speaker)  The speaker sits on top of the needle and has a glob of wax to hold it in place.  It is very hard to work around that red paper speaker it bends easy and rips easy.  Also with this doll, a lot of the time, will come with a hard head, what that means is ... this dolls body neck ring/flange/lip is the open kind, like what numbers 0-2 have, meaning it is very hard to get a hard head off without breaking the ring/flange/lip. It is easier to put the head back on than to take it off this doll, if it is a hard head.  0-2 always comes in soft heads so the open ring/flange/lip isn't a problem because a soft head is very easy to work with.  In all the dolls I have fixed this is the one I have the most trouble with.  It can be fixed but you have to so very careful with her that it can be nerve racking.  To me she is the most fragile doll of all the chatties. (this doll has also been called the transitional doll because it can come with a hard head and has an open voice box)

#4 Body/grill this body is easy to fix if you know what you are doing and a lot of the time a better made doll than the number 5's.  The reason is in almost all number 4's the needle has a spring on it to push the needle down onto the record.  I think the reason for this is the black record that is inside the dolls body.  The black record isn't as deeply grooved as the record in the #5. She is a very dependable doll she can almost always be fixed.  In fact I have had more luck fixing this doll than fixing the number 5. (this doll is the first one to say 18 different phrases record dated 1962 but she can also be found with a record dated 1961 and says 11 phrases)

#5 Body/grill this body is the one everyone wants and that is because she is easy to fix and the orange/white record is a much better record.  The doll can come with the orange/white record and that record is grooved deeper and less likely to get scratched up like the black ones do.  I also think the record is made of a different type of material.  But she can also come with the spring pressed needle and with the black record that is in the #4.  I see this mostly in blonde piggy's.  What I don't like about the number 5 is that the needle isn't spring pressed and I am sure Mattel took the spring out/off  because when they made the better record with the deeper groves, just the one spring (spring in the speaker) was enough and the one on the needle wasn't needed anymore but Mattel never knew these dolls would come to be such collectables.  Because after 45 years, the plastic is breaking down where the needle is attached to the number 5's body.  I have had that plastic flange/lip/post break off more than once and once it does you might as well just put the doll aside or put a whole new phonograph in her because it is close to impossible to fix this flange/lip/post.  But she is a very good talker when everything is working right.  Just remember when buying a doll with a #5 body doesn't mean she will have a #5 player  with the better orange record inside her body because like I said a lot of the blondes have the #4 player/phonograph inside them with the black record.  (Brunettes and Redheads can also have the #4 record player inside the body as well as the blonde pig-tail chatty cathy's)

PS:.. Would you like to read or even just see the patent on Chatty Cathy?
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Frequently Asked
Questions?
Is This Doll For Real? There are so many dolls out there that are different from one another that all I can really say is don't take any ones word for it!  Nobody knows for sure about these dolls.  In all the years I have been doing this you would think I would of have seen just about everything there is out there (I have bought over 300 Chatty Cathy dolls and have had my hands on more, not to mention the hundreds I read about on Ebay) but the fact is I haven't and I repair these dolls so I know the doll from top to bottom inside out and I have been asked every question there is about this doll and the doll will still surprise me.  So if you have a doll that has different eyes, shorter legs, different hair, foreign talking, English speaking.  Don't take another persons word that she isn't for real!  But don't be fooled either just used your best judgment and ask around not using just one source for your information on her and that goes for her value too.  Ask, Ask, Ask... because NOBODY knows for sure.

Price of the doll. Some people do not care what they pay for a doll and there are some that will not stop until they can say they got the best price.  I price my dolls first by her head, then her body and then by her limbs.  I also cater my market to the seasoned collector because reputation in this business is very important to me.  I have a good reputation for selling nice dolls at fair prices.  I do not over inflate my price because I am selling to a non collector "meaning the not so informed person".  Nor do I up her price because of what the doll is wearing or how I did her hair.  In fact I will sell you the doll without the clothes and will take off a reasonable amount of money.  But you should know the amount of money I take off her price will never be the amount of money I paid for her clothes.  In other words her clothes are worth more on the doll then buying her without clothes.   I want your business, I want you to be happy with the doll and I want you to come back and buy from me again!  I can't get what I want if I over price my dolls!.  .Click Here to read about my pricing
TidBit wait until after the holidays to buy a doll they are always cheaper!

I Had My Doll Repaired But She Still Does Not Talk Very Good, Why? Click Here "All about her Voice"

O-rings? They are an odd size so they are very hard to find.  Email me I have them. Something Else I am going to mention here.  I don't know about those O-rings I do not know how long they will last in the doll.  I do know that after 50 years most of the O-rings have gone bad.  So your guess is as good as mine on how long they will last.  But there are dolls that still work after 50 years.

Pull String? Is easy to find just hard to find it in small quantities.  I also have string.   I have tested the number of pulls you will get before the string breaks.  I have tested this more than once.  You will get at the least 200 to 300 pulls and on some and as much as 400 to 500 pulls (maybe more) before the string will break.  Chances are the plastic parts will break in her first.  Just don't get too carried away pulling her string and she will last for years.  Maybe forever who knows after all some are still talking today and the dolls are 50 years old.  Yes I leave a bit of the string hanging that is because I want to make sure my knot does not come apart or loosen.  I want to be able to catch the string if it should loosen up before it is lost inside the doll.  It will be up to the buyer to cut that extra string off if it bothers them.  Or just wrap it around the pull ring and secure with a bit of glue.

Guarantee On My Dolls. I cannot guarantee something that is so old and so fragile.  Nobody can or does, however I will will take the doll back if you are unhappy with her.  For ANY reason within the first 10 days

Glue or Chemicals? Glue has to be used in the inside of the doll for things like gluing the record back on to the disk.  The chemicals you read about are nothing more than a solvent that melts the plastic a bit so the dolls seams can be put back together without gaps.  Meaning the plastic melts a bit so the two sides are then welded together. 

Hair Shampoo? Yes use human shampoo on her hair It will not hurt her hair! ... The question is how do you want your Chatty to smell?  Because if you use other house hold products like dish soaps/ laundry soaps.  She will smell like that too.   Her head is made of rubber and rubber picks-up smells.  So think twice about what you wash her hair in.   Human shampoos and conditioners are very mild they have to be!  They are used on Humans plus they smell so much better.
  
Eye Replacement? Read all about her eyes Click Here

Other Restorers? I have never bought a doll from any of them and they have never bought a doll from me, so I do not know their work and they do not know mine.  I don't like to brag but I Am The Best!  LOL

Other Web Sites? I have seen a few web sites that sell Chatty Cathy dolls but I have also seen them come and go.  I have had this site since 1998 the name has changed and I now sell Chatty Cathy dolls but I was here 9 years ago and will be here for as many years to come.  I really do not have an opinion on the other sites except "they sell", "I sell" and "I still do have the best prices" and the best dolls!   naa naa, na naa naa.... LOL.  That's for those other sites.
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Fixing Other Peoples Dolls?   I do not fix other peoples dolls.  Because as a restorer I know that there is NO WAY for me to tell you for sure if your doll can be fixed, meaning there could be so many things wrong inside with your doll that she can't be fixed or isn't worth fixing.  Unless of course you are willing to pay a mint to have her fixed.   What I will do is this.... If you find a doll on ebay that doesn't talk and you want her, I will buy the doll for you.  After she is shipped to me I will open her to see what damage is inside (if they can't talk there is damage, how bad is the question).  Then tell you if she can or can't be fixed.  This way you are not out any money and it will be your option to buy her from me once fixed.   Also this way you are not out any money and I do not have to worry about taking your money to fix a doll I do not know for sure if she can or can't be fixed.  Plus if she can't be fixed I can always use her for parts and if she can and you have changed your mind I can always resell her. My charge to you for fixing her would be the cost of the doll, shipping cost plus a reasonable cost to fix her

How long have you been restoring dolls and do you sell them on Ebay? I have been restoring dolls forever, I just never started selling them until ebay and I now sell them on this site.  It's easier and cheaper for me to sell my dolls off my site and because of that I can offer the doll at a much lower price than selling them on ebay.   Ebay has many, many fees that have to be paid when selling a doll and it's because of those fees, that I do not have to pay, that I can offer the doll at a much lower price.  Plus I now restore Only the Chatty Cathy doll.  My plans for now and in the future are to keep buying, repairing and selling Chatty Cathy dolls.  As long as there is a Chatty Cathy doll out there that needs my special touch I will always be here.

PS: I am not a member of any club and I do not know all these chatty people you will see selling and buying these dolls.  I'm just one "me" and I can say with confidence you will not find a more knowledgeable repair person on the Chatty Cathy doll.  Plus if you buy a doll from me you will see and read about the whole doll not just about her pretty face and clothes but her whole body in a detailed description.  NO hidden surprises and NO hidden shipping charges.  What you see and read is what you will get.  She will be packed in a new priority mail box with a cardboard insert to protect her body and head from being miss handled or crushed while in the mail.  When she arrives at your door you will open her box with the confidents and knowledge you are getting "more" than what you paid for because she will be even more beautiful in person.  Plus remember ALL my Vintage dolls are returnable.

Note:
of interest for some... On this site NO names and NO site names will ever be used!  Your privacy is my top priority.  No Feedback and No Blogs.   If you have bought a doll from me and want her picture removed from the sold page please let me know and I will remove it with no questions asked.  Again your privacy is my top priority!
Tidbit's
Things about a Chatty Cathy you should know if you own or are planning on buying these dolls.

Pull-String:. To stop her from saying the same thing over and over again... do not let your doll do this.  If you do, it will cause the needle to groove a deeper groove on the record and as a result you will then have trouble getting her to stop saying that phrase over and over again..  If she starts doing this just stop her from talking after you pull her string half way out.  Then pull again and she should say something else the next time. Also please do not pull that string so hard that you could pull those plastic parts apart inside the doll.  You need to pull steady and with her in an upright position or slightly tipped backwards or forwards, God don't start pulling her string upside down and sideways that is just crazy and you could break the doll. Yes I am sure it was pulled all different ways when the doll was new but you got to remember these dolls are old and the plastic is starting to break down so you have to be careful. 

Hair:. Yes use human shampoos and conditioners.  Do not use curling irons on it... Geeze I have run into so many dolls that people do this.  Curling irons will singes the dolls hair.  Also think twice about dumping her head in boiling water if you do this it will take what ever factory curl that is left in her hair out.  Curl her hair with plain old rollers that you can buy at K-mart for a few bucks and use a curling gel.  Then just let her hair dry over night or set her under one of those old fashion portable hair dryers.  You can pick one up on ebay for about 10 bucks but be careful not to use high heat.  The gel will make the hair stiff when you first take it out of rollers. Just brush or comb each curl out gently.  You can use hair spray to make the curl stay but hair spray will and does pick up odor from any where the doll is sitting and dust and what ever else is in that room.  When selling my dolls I have changed the way I sell because of this.  If you set her hair then take pictures, she is nice and fresh but if she doesn't sell and you wait another week her hair will start to take on all kinds of smells and if you don't use hair spry the hair will start to loose it's curl..  So if you are a seller remember this because people that buy these dolls think their hair is magically set that way and will stay forever and ever.  This is just not true... If  you are a buyer please remember you will have to wash her hair and clothes at least once a month to keep her smelling clean or put her under glass or box her up to keep her clean.  I now set her hair fix it then sell her then wash and fix her hair again before I ship her out.  The one time I didn't wash her hair a lady complained to me about the way she smelled and the one time I didn't fix her hair another lady complained to me about her hair being messy even after I washed it but didn't fix it just perfect..  It's so hard to keep everyone happy and it's a pain to keep having to wash, set and fix the dolls hair......so I am changing my policy to get 10 bucks off the cost of the doll if they will take her without her hair fixed.  Washing the dolls body clothes and hair is not the problem it's fixing her hair that takes time on these old dolls.

Face:. When you buy a doll look at her face color not only her eyes, lips, brows, freckles but the color of her face in general.  A lot of the soft face bobs have bad gray faces and when you get her you will see the difference in her face to the top of her head.  Now most soft face Chatty Cathy's will have just a bit of graying from age but some are real bad.  That gray will not come out or I should say can be a permanent discoloration of the rubber her face is made out of.   As far as the gray or silver eye brows on those early soft heads I think they were made that way because if you compare those dolls to the remakes you will see almost the same color on the eye-brow.   Main thing to watch for is the bad gray face.  The cheeks are not a problem at all because you can add make-up easy to her cheeks.  I always try to find a doll with good lip color because it is sooooooooo hard for me to add lip color to her lips, I am sure you would be better at it than me!!  As a rule I never add make-up of any kind because it takes time and I just can-not get it right!!!.... Oh don't worry with me I will never sell you a gray faced doll I get rid of those heads they are worthless to me.  I don't ever worry if the doll has teeth or not if she is a soft face they can easily be replaced on a hard face too but it is harder to replace the teeth on a hard face but then again I rarely run into a hard face that doesn't have teeth.

Soft or Hard Face?:. There are many, many soft face bobs out there for sale and you can get them at a good price.  But the soft face piggy is another story.  Sometimes I think why do I always try and get a soft face piggy?  They really aren't any prettier than a hard face doll but they are much easier to work with when fixing a doll.  They are somewhat rare but you can get one at a pretty good price.  I don't think they are prettier but some people might think so.  The only good reason I try to buy the soft face piggy is because it sells better than a hard face.  Oh I suppose you can re-root a soft face easier to but Mattel did such a good job on these chatties hair that a chatty can have up to 40 plugs missing and she still will have a good head of hair.  If you are looking for a soft face piggy the best thing to do is ask the seller if she is a soft face.  I always think I can tell by just looking at the picture but I have been fooled with these dolls, so I just ask.

Eyes: There are blue decal, brown decal, blue and blue/green glassine and I have seen blue and green pinwheel.  Most of the dolls have blue decal.  Brown are found in the brunettes bobs, Paige boy and the pig-tail dolls.  Brown is also found in the blonde bobs.  I have only seen 2 blonde pigtail dolls with brown eyes.  They are as rare as is the brown eyes found in the Paige boy or the pigtail brunette dolls.  Also the Paige boy dolls are all hard face dolls and most have chatty measles so it is a rare find to find a brown eyed Paige boy with a good spotless head.   Plus all these eyes can be found in both the hard face and soft face dolls.  Decal is the most common, then brown decal, then glassine then the rare pinwheel.   If you are worried the eyes have been changed, take the head off and look at the back of the eye.  Most of the eyes will have a round shape or have a round/flat shape with no cuts, meaning the rubber of the eye back is molded to the head.   Look and compare your doll to other Chatty Cathy dolls you can see a difference if the eyes are changed.  Click Here for more information on the eyes.

Limbs: There are many different color limbs.  #0,1 & 2 grill will always have the darker brown limbs.  #3 grill will almost always have those bad faded white limbs.  #4 & 5 grills will have a more skin tone in color and some will have a nice peachy color.  Limbs are very hard to match up.  The skin tone color is the hardest to match because the shades are so different from one doll to the next.  Plus some are smaller than others.

Chatty white spots "Measles" and fading legs and arms:.  You will see the chatty white spots on the hard  face number ?/2 on in the picture above.   The dolls that are not pig-tail dolls they have pageboy cut hair and almost always come on the number ?/2 body and they Can Not be removed!   If you would like to know what this is click here.
The really bad white arms and legs almost always come on the #3 in the picture above.  It amasses me how many people try to hide those arms and legs when selling a doll.  They are bad and I have tried dying them like most restorers do one time or another without much luck and I only made them worse, some restorers do a pretty good job dying the limbs and most will tell you if they have. 

A Franken Chatty
, oh boy I just love those dolls, my god people will try just about anything to try and sell a doll.   Don't be fooled if it doesn't look like a chatty then you can bet your last dollar it isn't, well part of it might be.  I have seen chatty heads on other dolls and chatty bodies with another dolls arms and legs.  There is a whole mix of Franken chatties out there watch out! 

Stains on her legs and arms:.  Ok here is one... I have asked and asked but nobody has a good way to get rid of those red stains.  If they are there chances are they are there to stay.  Mattel made those red dresses that just did nothing but stain the body of the dolls.   Sometimes if the stain is not too deep you can sand it out and then buff.  I don't worry much about those red stains on the top of the arms because they are easily covered with clothes or staining at the top of her legs again easily covered with clothes.  Stains on her face are like a Nightmare to me!!  Not to say I have never got them out but they still are a Nightmare to me.  I have not found a good way to remove stains and I have tried everything I can think of.   Just to name a few... Nail polish remover, boiling the part, OXI Clean cleaner, number 10 acne cream, doll cleaner this and that (worthless), bleach, alcohol, red stain remover, iron out, gas, make-up remover, Pepsi and other cola's as well, you name it I have tried it and melted a few doll parts doing it.  So if there is anyone out there that has the magic secret please TELL ME!!

People selling these dolls:.  A lot of the time things are not disclosed, not because that person selling is trying to hide something but because they just do not know it can't be removed or restored.  Some people think because it's a Chatty Cathy and that there are a lot of people out there buying and fixing these dolls that all dolls can be fixed or restored back to beauty and that is just Not True.  Ask any restored how many times they bought a doll that just turned into a nightmare!    So many people think it's easy!   It's not easy at all just when you think you got her working right something else will break on her.  This is also why the people that fix these dolls say right up front "these dolls are old and I can't be responsible for the doll once it leaves my house", anything can happen to her in shipping.  I can't stress this enough "Please Do Not Drop Your Chatty", her parts are so old and they break easy.  This can be a nerve racking business because you just never know who you are dealing with because some when they get the doll they want perfection and with a Chatty this just isn't going to be true.  Oh you could buy 3 or 4 dolls and take only the best parts off each doll and make a perfect doll I suppose maybe but why?  By the time you did that you would have so much money into that doll you would be lucky to get half your money back when you went to sell, not to mention all the time you put into that doll.  Also when buying a Canadian doll don't be fooled into thinking this guy doesn't know what he is selling because believe me he does.  Well maybe a few don't but there are so many Canadian collectors out there that if he doesn't know what he is selling I am sure one of them will soon tell him!

Black Chatty Cathy Dolls:.  The only thing I can say about these dolls is that they are "BEAUTIFUL" and if you are lucky enough to have one keep her under glass!!  When buying one watch out for dyed limbs and bodies.   ASK the seller he or she will know.

Chatty Clothes new and old:. Be careful because I have bought those red dresses that someone out of peer greed sent me a red dress that had red marked or what ever on the red velvet to cover up the discoloration and if I hadn't washed it first I would have got that red dye on my doll.  Just be careful when buying any clothes for chatty wash them before you put them on the doll, just like you would do when buying clothes for yourself.  Also the new remake in the red pinafore and red jumpsuit are NOT color fast meaning when you go to wash them the dye in them will turn your water bright red!!  That is how much dye is in those new clothes.  Wash them in cold water and be so very careful as to make sure it is dry before you put it on the doll because it will stain her..  I wont dress my dolls in those red clothes anymore at all, I ask why take a chance?

Lastly:. Don't be fooled into thinking it is so easy to fix these dolls because it isn't.  It's so true what other restorers say "If you are going to do this try fixing an old doll that you don't much like because chances are you are NOT going to get it right the first time and it will take hours if not days to fix her" and watch out when you read "I'm sure this can be easily repaired", because it can't!
Good Luck!

Oop's forgot Canadian Chatty Cathy Dolls:. Boy what beautiful dolls these are... Now I do not pretend I know everything about these Canadian dolls but you can tell if she is a true Canadian by her face... Once you get to know the face of a Canadian doll you will be able to pick her out in a crowd.   Not only is her freckle pattern different but her brows are higher and her over-all face color is much richer.  Her lips have a very nice smooth bubble gum look plus the color on the lips is almost always very well preserved.  Her eyes can be glassine, pinwheel and decal.  It is easy to tell a Canadian pig-tail head because her hair is only rooted around the outside of her head and then one long rooting from the front top of her forehead back down to the top of her neck.  Her head is always soft.  A dead give away are those peachy colored limbs she can have.  Her arms and legs "can be" much prettier in color than the American dolls, they have a more peachy color.  She can have other colored limbs but those peachy colored limbs are the nicest.  So if her face is soft, she has the figure 8, high brows, very pretty full preserved lips, nice rich color to her face and those peachy limbs chances are she is a Canadian doll ...The inside of her body and the writing on the back of her body is the very same as the American Chatty.  Just because it says Pat. in Canada DOES NOT mean she is a Canadian doll.

NOTE:.. I have had this question ask many, many times so I have decided to try to clear this question up!  Meaning HOW DO I TELL IF IT IS A CANADIAN DOLL? Now I am far from being an expert on the Canadian doll but I will tell you what I have learned in the past years....

Eyes:
Canadian Dolls can have Glassine eyes, Pinwheel eyes and YES Decal eyes.
There are 2 different colors of Blue Glassine with sable lashes one is a light blue with purple specs and the other is a blue green color and very in shades. 
There are 3 different Colors of Pinwheel eyes with sable lashes.  3 different Greens from dark to light green.
There are 2 blue
There are 2 brown one light the other dark.  I have never had both together at one time so I cannot be for sure on that.
There are also blue decal eyes.  Now these look like the American eyes and can be a light and dark blue with plastic lashes.
Click Here for more information on the eyes.

Freckles:
A Canadian chatty cathy will have freckles that are in the shape of a figure 8 and if you look close you can see it.  Look at a picture of an American doll and a Canadian doll to see this pattern.  Also the color... now I will get in trouble saying this but I think that the color of the freckles are two and maybe 3 different colors.  One is a dark brown another is a nice chocolate brown and the last one is a gray brown.  The reason I say this is because I have compared the color of the freckles on many, dolls American and Canadian and I have come to the conclusion that although some dolls have graying freckles some also have what I would say a Gray Brown freckle.  My reasoning for this is the different color in the New Chatty Cathy dolls.  If you compare the color of the freckles on the new dolls to the color of the freckles on the old dolls and  Canadians you will see the very same color meaning the grey brown.   But again I am not an expert on the Canadian doll, what I know is from buying hundreds of dolls (American dolls mosly) and comparing the differences between American dolls and Canadian dolls

Eye Brows:
The Canadian Chatty Cathy will have high eye brows meaning higher above the eyes than an American doll. 

Lips:

The lips on a Canadian Chatty are almost always well preserved and are a bubble gum pink.  Again if you want to see this better compare with an American doll.

Face Color:

Her face will be a richer color it will be a much tanner look.  Meaning a more brown peachy color and the cheeks almost always have some of the pink cheek color left.  Not much color on some of the dolls and then again a lot on others. 

Hair:
The pig-tail Canadians will have bald spots on the top back of their head.  This is a very easy way to tell if it is a Canadian piggy.  I have never ever seen an American doll with this rooting pattern.  The bobs hair is the same style as the American bob but it is a bit shorter.   It also will have the typical long extra hair tuff on the top.  I have never seen a Canadian doll with a long bob, not saying they are not out there, I just have never seen one.   Canadians have a much coarser hair this is hard to tell by pictures alone but when you feel it and see it up close you can tell.  It also keeps the curl much longer than an American doll and to me is soooooo much easier to fix!  (if you know me you know I hate fixing hair) ...


Limbs:

Now some of the limbs are a much more peachy color.  But a lot of the bobs have the more brown limbs like the early Chatty Cathy dolls and some will have limbs like the American dolls.  If I am ever confused about buying a Canadian doll I just look at the limbs and if I see those real peachy color limbs I jump on the doll.   The peachy color is such a nice color and I don't think I have ever had one with stains.   I have bought a few Canadian dolls with the brown limbs and the not so peachy color limbs.  The brown color looks like the early Chatty Cathy dolls, the prototype dolls and the number ones but they seem to be a lighter brown but yet brown. The same thing goes for the pink limbs,  they look like the latter 4's and 5# but lighter pink.  I would like to buy only the peachy color limbs but not all the Canadian dolls come with them.

Body:

NOPE no way to tell if it was made in Canada or not.   "This is my feeling"... I have looked at and compared the body so many times my head is spinning.... and I have concluded there is no way what so ever to tell where the body came from.  I say this because I have opened many of these dolls and there is not one marking in or on a Canadian dolls body that can tell me for sure it was made in Canada and I am sure that through the years I have been repairing this doll if there was something to tell me the different I would know it by now.  I used to think the body was more of a peach color but I do not believe that any more at all.  Just because it says Pat. in Canada DOES NOT mean she is a Canadian doll.

Other Canadian Dolls Like the Chatty Baby:   I know nothing about the doll and do not like the way the doll looks so I just don't buy them so I do not have a clue about her Value or What she should look like.

F
oreign talking Chatty Cathy?   YES, YES, YES the doll was made.  Click Here      

Do you speak French?  Can you tell me what these dolls are saying?  Please click here.    Please close your eyes when listening to the video, it is more for sound than anything else I had to put the speaker very close to the camera to get the voice.  I can't tell if they are the same or not.

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Chatty Cathy
The "French Canadian" Doll Says
Note: I do not know for sure what the doll with the black record says.  Please click here to read and listen to two French dolls and to get a better understanding of the French Canadian Chatty Cathy Doll.. 
Phrases On The White Record Dated 196???? with the name Caroline on the record

11 Phrases:

1) Je suis bien sage (I am very good!)

2) Je m'appelle Caroline (My name is Caroline)

3) Prenez-moi dans vos bras. (Take me in your arms)

4) J'ai faim, je veux manger (I'm hungry, I want to eat!)

5) Amen-moi dans mon petit lit (Put me in my little bed)

6) Je suis tres jolie (I am very pretty)

7) J'ai tres sommeil (I am very sleepy)

8) Donnez-moi un bonbon (Give me a candy!)

9) Je veux mon lait (I want my milk).

10) Je ferme mes jolies yeux (I will close my pretty eyes!)

11) Je suis tres gentile (I am very sweet!)
What Chatty Cathy Says
Note: The numbers next to the phrase will tell you if that particular phrase is also on one of the other records
#1
Phrases On The Black or Orange/Peachy Colored Record Dated 1961 or 1962


18 Phrases Chatty Cathy says:
I love you. =1,2,3
Do you love me?=1,2   
Give me a kiss.=1,3
Let's have a party.= 1,3
Please change my dress.= 1,3
Please brush my hair.= 1,2,3
Where are we going?= 1,2
Please take me with you.=1,3
I'm hungry .=1,2
May I have a cookie?=1,3
Will you play with me?=1,2,3            
Please carry me.=1,2                               Let's play house.=1,2                  
I hurt myself! =1,2
I'm sleepy. or I'm Tired =1,2
What can we do now?=1,3          
Let's play school.= 1,3
Tell me a story.=1,2
#2
Phrases On The Black Record Dated 1961


11 Phrases Chatty Cathy says:
I love you. =1,2,3
Lets change my dress. =2
Please brush my hair.=1,2,3
Where are we going?=1,2
I'm hungry =1,2
Will you play with me?=1,2           
Please carry me.=1,2                               Let's play house.=1,2                 
I hurt myself! =1,2
I'm sleepy.=1,2
Tell me a story.=1,2
#3
Phrases On The Brown Record 1959 - 1961.  Also the brown record is not dated. The brown record I think was the first one made.


11 Phrases Chatty Cathy says:
I love you. =1,2,3
Do you love me?= 1,3
Please brush my hair. =1,2,3
What can we do now? =1,3
Please change my dress.=1,3
Give me a kiss.=1,3                                 I'm so tired.=3                
Lets have a party.=1,3
Please take me with you.=1,3
Lets play school.=1,3
May I have a cookie?=1,3
What Singing
Chatty Says
"Sings"
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What Chatty
Baby Says
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Phrases On The Black Record Dated 1961 or 1962

18 Phrases Chatty Baby Says:

HI Mama
Nice Mommy
OK
Mama Kiss
Nice Baby
Night Night
Tummy Hurt
Ga Ga Gu Gu
Doggy Bow Wow
Cookie All Gone
Here Kitty Cat
Go BY BY
I Fall Down
NO No No NO
Baby Hungry
Hiiiiiiiii
Baby "Crying"
Baby "Laughing"
Set One (1)
Hi-ho, the derry-o,
The farmer in the dell

A Tisket, a Tasket
A green and yellow basket

Old MacDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O

London Bridge is falling down,
My fair lady

Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
How I wonder what you are

Sing a song of sixpence,
A pocket full of rye

Row, row, row your boat
Life is but a dream.

Rock-A-By Baby
On The Tree Top

Ring around the roses,
A pocket full of posies

Set Two (2)

Rock-A-By Baby
On The Tree Top

Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
How I wonder what you are

London Bridge is falling down,
My fair lady

Row, row, row your boat
Life is but a dream

Hi-ho, the derry-o,
The farmer in the dell

Mary had a little lamb,
It's fleece was white as snow

I'm Singing Chatty Will You Sing With Me?

Ring around the roses,
A pocket full of posies

A Tisket, a Tasket
A green and yellow basket

Pop! goes the weasel
I Like Pop-Corn
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Additional Information: Has your doll been repaired to talk again?  If she has you should know. 

Your dolls voice box has been repaired or replaced (replaced)=
"Used".  It is not "New".

Your doll is not new, she is vintage, almost 50 years old and so is her voice box.  Unfortunately her voice box cannot be replaced with a new one nor can the record that is inside that voice box.  They do not make them any more.  Please remember the record inside the dolls voice box is used.  There are few if any non played with dolls out there so her record inside her body was played.  Played over and over again by a child.  As a result the voice can be a bit scratchy sounding, like a used record would sound.  If you have bought a bob or (numbered body 0-4)  chances are her record will have a bit of scratchy sound to it.  Some dolls more than others.  . 

There are 4 different records that can be found inside the dolls body.  Brown, black and orangey/pink. and (rare white) 

The dolls that were made between the years of 1959 and 1961 and most of the 1962 dolls have a brown or black record inside the body.  The brown and the black records are made of a different softer plastic than the orangey/pink or white one and can and will scratch much, much easier.  The orangey/pink and white record is only found in the later #5 dolls that were made in late 1962.   That better record is only found in the #5 dolls and in only 50% at best guess have them (the white record in maybe 1% of the dolls).  Almost all your blonde pigtail Chatty Cathy dolls with a #5 body will have the less than perfect softer black record.   Also a lot of the Brunettes and some of the redheads also have that same black record.  It is a rare find to find a doll with the white record inside her body.  In the 400 or so dolls that I have had or repaired I have only found 3 white records.

The only record that will or could be close to perfect would be in a #5 doll.  Plus remember only 50% of the number 5's will have that better record.  Most Chatty Cathy dolls will have the not so perfect black record.     

#0-4 can have a black or brown record and it will be somewhat scratchy sounding and not as loud as a #5. 
Only #5 with the orangey/pink or the white record will sound somewhat new with little to no background noise.

Please remember that these dolls are old and ALL of them have been played with by little children so All the records have been played before and are in used condition

TidBit: The orangey/pink record and the white record made out of the better material, is what is in almost all the later (1962 or later) Mattel talking dolls and puppets.  Charmin Chatty and Tiny Chatty Baby for example have a white record that is made just like Chatty Cathy's record except it was made in the later years so it was made out of the better material.  Unlike the early black or brown records that were made first, and were made of a softer plastic, and are in most of the Chatty Cathy dolls.

Something Else I am going to mention here.  I don't know about those O-rings I do not know how long they will last in the doll.  I do know that after 50 years most of the O-rings have gone bad.  So your guess is as good as mine on how long they will last.  But there are dolls that still work after 50 years. 
Why Does My Chatty Have White Spots On Her Face?
Measles What Are They? or White Spots On Her Face, "They Cannot Be Removed"

What I "think" they are and if you have ever worked in a place where they mold things out of rubber and plastic. You would know that things like rubber come in pellet shaped form, the size of large and small peas and also come in very large containers.  It is then melted and mixed in very large tubs with softener and plastics to get it the right consistency and color. Then it is pored into molds to make the doll head. So what I think happened was some of the rubber and plastics were slightly different in color, maybe some of the pellets didn't mix well with the others, maybe it didn't come from the same supplier or it was a soft rubber being mixed with a harder one, it would have been a cost issue.  So when it was molded to form the head the color differences didn't show up at that time.  It more than likely only started to show up on the dolls head after many years.  I think the reason that you are seeing it now is because rubber and plastics are like anything else, after time most things lose color,  some more than others.  Like the color in clothes.  Anyway what is happening on her face is some of the pea size pellets are losing color at a much faster rate than the other pea size rubber pellets. Someday the other color on her face will catch up and that head will once again be the same color but how long that will take nobody knows. Plus it might never catch up.  Also if the doll has white spots now they will never get any better and could get worse and they cannot be removed, most of them go all the way through the rubber.

Also: I have seen other spots on the dolls head that look like they are gray or they have an almost blue tint.  They are round the same as the white ones.  So I now think that the rubber came in different colors and it just did not get mixed or melted enough.  I don't know but I think these heads were all made at the same place meaning the "hard face long bob head" was made at the same plant because I only see this on those Chatty Cathy heads.     Note: the graying face I think that is from the dolls face being exposed to the elements more than its head top, because the top of the head is covered with hair.

UPDATE:.. You learn as I learn... I have run into a soft face brunette brown eyed bob with Chatty Measles.  My very first one and it is now telling me these Measles are not just on the hard face bob dolls.  Hers are very, very light and very hard to see but they are there.
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"About Me"
About Me and My Chatty Cathy Obsession:..  My first chatty I got for Christmas in 1963 she was a red-head with green glassine or pinwheel eyes I can't remember which.  But I can remember her like it was yesterday and the reason for that is because I wanted a talking doll with long hair that I could play with and fix her hair the way I wanted it.  Up until then there wasn't any dolls that had long hair.  I  opened her and was so happy until the next day when I went to take her hair out of pig-tails and seen these 2 big bald spots on the back of her head!   God I was soooooo MAD!!  I could not believe my mother would buy me a doll that was bald!   Of course she didn't know and to top it all off my twin sister got Chatty Charmin that had all those records that she bragged about and how her doll said all kinds of stuff.   I played with my red-head green eyed chatty with the bald head that only said 18 phrases while I watched my twin learn French with her doll.  I few years later I put all my dolls away and started on boys.   But we, my twin and I, told my mom to keep our dolls and to never throw our Chatties away and she did.  When I was 22 and married I asked my mother for my Chatty Cathy doll and when she brought her out she was now missing an arm and didn't talk anymore..... again I was soooooooo MAD!   My mom had let others play with her and when she broke my dad had tried to fix her and lost her arm!  LOL  I can remember my mom saying she didn't know the kids had it (a lie) and my dad saying oh the arms around here some place (another lie).  LOL  I took my broken down bald chatty home with me only to have my husband after looking at this one armed bald doll up in the closet taking up space, ask me why in the world I would want to keep that piece of junk doll?   So I Throw her out!  Yup in the trash she went and to this day I have always regretted that.  I spent many years looking for another red-head chatty with green eyes and bald spots and I am still looking for her. 

I know now she is what they call a Canadian Chatty Cathy but I still wonder about that because we lived in the southern part of Minnesota and I know my mother would not have made a trip to Canada to buy a doll but she did order from catalogs so maybe some how it came down from Canada.  But I still have my doubts and think that some of those Canadian dolls (what they call them now) were made right here in America (maybe)?  I do know that the reason the dolls have the bald spots was because it was a cheaper way to build the doll and was a cheaper doll to buy.  I some how knew that back in 1963 as I still believe that now. 

I now collect and fix Chatty Cathy dolls and love doing it, I continue to look for my bald redhead chatty everyday on ebay, I check junk and antique stores, go to auctions just looking for her over and over again so it is a bit strange that I should repair all these dolls and have never been able to get my hands on my bald redhead.  I think the day I find her, I will then be able to give this obsession up.  (maybe)

PS:.. My twin still has her Chatty Charmin and "By Accident" one day I threw out my husbands baseball card collection.
Chatty Cathy "How I Fix My Dolls"
How I Repair Chatty:... I repair all my chatties myself "me" only me there isn't a we or an us it's just "me".   I am a professional restorer of these Chatty Cathy dolls and it has taken me years to say that and I don't say that lightly because it has taken me years.   I have done many experiments with these dolls meaning there isn't a question you can ask me that I do not know the answer to.  

I don't buy dolls that have been repaired by someone else or that have been opened other than for parts.  When I open a doll if her plastic parts inside are broke I do no further repair on that particular doll's body.  Her body is set aside but I will use her for parts, like her record if in good shape, her arms, legs and head on another good body.  I do not mix up doll parts meaning if her record, head and arms came from a soft head bob they go back on a soft head bobs body.  I do replace belts (o-rings) pull-string.  After years of repairing the doll I have found a better line to use as her pull string.  I did use 55 -80 pound green-spot or solid white test line.  I now use 130 pound black spot it's the best line you can buy and it is thinner and stronger.  I think 35 to 50 pound solid white or red spot is what she had originally.  But it is adults pulling her string now not kids so I think a stronger string is better and I always replace her pull string.  I never replace eyes but I will fix them from the indide and will replace eye lashes.  I will also guarantee her eyes have not been replaced. 
Click Here for more information on the eyes.  (not done yet I am still working on this page)

I am forever learning how to do her make-up.  As a rule I do not add make-up to the dolls face ever.  I try to buy dolls that have their original make-up, only because my specialty is in the repair of the voice box and not in make-up or hair at all.  This brings me to the hair.  I have never ever bought a doll that has every single plug and I will replace a few plugs here and there but when I do I will replace the hair with original Chatty Cathy hair same color.  On most of the dolls I sell I do not think it is necessary to replace hair plugs because Mattel did such a good job on the hair of these dolls that a chatty can have 30 or 40 plugs missing and she will still have a good head of hair, the only way you can tell she has missing plugs is by looking deep down on her scalp.  Also I think the Red-Head Chatties are the dolls that you will see the most missing plugs.  So when I say she has missing plugs in my description you can assume she will have anywhere from 5 to 40 (40 on a red-head) missing plugs.

It wasn't until ebay that I really got into buying repairing and selling my dolls.  I buy dolls not only on ebay but anywhere I can find them.  I spend many days redoing each doll.  Each and every doll goes through a thrall cleaning, I take her head, arms and legs off her body then scrub every part of her.  I check and wash the inside of her head checking for rotting or moldy hair and wash the inside of her head hair as much as I do her head top hair.  I wash her eyes out and I do this because I feel that washing her eyes is very important (I would not suggest you wash your chatties eyes at all!) I do it because it usually cleans out all that gummed up sticky crap that so many of the chatty's seem to have in their eyes that makes them stick.  I will then I take the body and very carefully open it.  Once opened I take it back to the sink and scrub the inside of her and toss out used belts and string.  Making sure there is not one tiny bit of dirt left in her.  I do the same cleaning on all numbered dolls meaning if she has a closed voice box that box gets the same thrall cleaning.  But with a closed voice box I first check to see if adding a little doll grease to that closed box will fix her.  I have a policy not to open a closed voice box not only because they are very hard to fix but also because I prefer to keep her as natural as possible because with me, a doll that still talks without being opened is worth more to me than one that is fixed to talk for another 20 years but in the same sense I feel that a chatty isn't a chatty if she doesn't talk.  Although a closed voice box is a pain to repair it is also one that once fixed will last many more years than the open voice boxes that are in the 3,4's and 5's.  Because it is closed it is protected from the elements and less likely to get gummed up or the string or belt rotting. 

I then spend another day on her fixing and replacing her belt, pull string and checking her record to see if it is too scratched up to use.  If all is well I let her set for another 2 days to make sure she is completely dried out and all repairs are still holding like re-gluing her casement back to the doll.  I then close her up and let her set for yet another day to make sure she stays sealed checking for any cracks or openings in her seams.  Once I put her head back on I will wash, condition and roll/set her hair.  After a few hours under the hair drier I will fix and style her hair, get her dressed then leave her alone covered to protect her from any dust.  After she has set undisturbed for a week or so I then check her once more to see if she is still talking good and if her hair holds the curl and for any spots that once she is totally dry shouldn't pop back up.  Only then do I take her down to write her description to sell.  When I write her description I always have the doll next to me so I can look her over from head to foot so I don't forget to mention anything!  It's a long drawn out process but I love doing it and it is my hobby.  I have a room that is devoted to nothing but fixing Chatties and other dolls as well.  It's even called the Chatty Room and nobody is aloud to touch a thing in it!  LOL I just love my Chatties and so will you if you should buy one of my dolls.

How long have I been fixing dolls?  Only forever, I just never started selling them until ebay and I now sell them on this site.  It's easier and cheaper for me to sell my dolls off my site and because of that I can offer the doll at a much lower price than selling them on ebay.   Ebay has many, many fees that have to be paid when selling a doll and it's because of those fees, that I do not have to pay, that I can offer the doll at a much lower price.   My plans for now and in the future are to keep buying, repairing and selling Chatty Cathy dolls.  As long as there is a Chatty Cathy doll out there that needs my special touch I will always be here.  

PS:  I am not a member of any club and I do not know all these chatty people you will see selling and buying these dolls.  I'm just one "me" and I can say with confidence you will not find a more knowledgeable repair person on the Chatty Cathy doll.  Plus if you buy a doll from me you will see and read about the whole doll not just about her pretty face and clothes but her whole body in a detailed description.  NO hidden surprises and NO hidden shipping charges.  What you see and read is what you will get.  She will be packed in a new priority mail box with a cardboard insert to protect her body and head from being miss handled or crushed as well as to protect her dress and hair from being crushed while in the mail.  When she arrives at your door you will open her box with the confidents and knowledge you are getting "more" than what you paid for because she will be even more beautiful in person.  Plus remember ALL my Vintage dolls are returnable.

One last thing and then I will shut-up!... My animation site!  I have been doing animations for maybe 6 or 7 years now.....  When I'm not fixing a doll I do animations.  I am more obsessed with my animations than I am with my chatties.   I have had a wed site since 1999 I think?  Maybe it was 98.  I used to take request for animations but I was just getting way to, too many requests.  But if it wasn't for all the people that visit my site I wouldn't be here right now!  So this is a special thanks to all of you that visit and use my animations on your site, in your emails and where ever .....  My site has now been hit... well I just took a look at my stats and copied and this is what it says....as of December 1 2005 "These pages have been viewed a total of 1589438 times".  Yup over 1 and 1/2 million hits!!  (I have something like 175 pages) .  Thank You All for Making That Happen and I hope you continue to come back, "You" have made me Proud!  
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